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11:30 am
November 15, 2010


Robby Bray

Ocala Fl

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Hey Guys,

 I just got an email from a concerned mom about her son being bullied at school.  This is his first year in middle school and the bullies are all over him.  This kid is such a nice little guy, and he is a very small kind of shy kid, but has a heart of gold.  Any way, she just emailed me for advice on how to handle the bullies and her son.  As his Karate instructor, she has asked for my advise. 

 First time this has happened to me in the year and a half I've been open, so I'm kind of not sure what to say.   I say beat the snot of the little  *%#* heads but that probably is not good advice. LoL. 

  On a serious note, I need to help this little guy through this and am just wondering if anyone else has had this problem and how they handled it.

Thanks

Robby.

6:05 am
November 19, 2010


M. Massie

Austin, TX

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posts 125

Robby, if you instruct the mom and kid on what they SHOULD do, you could leave yourself open to liability.

However, if you provide them with options you're providing them with a better service and covering yourself as well.

Kids in these situations need to understand a few things:

  • The first option is avoidance, period. Kids have a tendency to go places where they know trouble is waiting, just because they don't want to appear scared. Advise the kid to stay away from places where the problem kids hang out.
  • Also, tell him he needs to stay with a group as much as possible. Loners and isolated kids get picked on, alot.
  • Social skills are important. Just making more friends can turn a bully situation around. One, the kid being bullied will be less isolated. Two, the more influential a kid is socially, the less chance they have to be bullied.
  • The next options are talking, joking, or begging their way out of a fight.
  • Running is an option too. There aren't any bonus points in real life for bravery. We just had a kid in here in Houston that was beaten to death. Just horrible. I also advised on a criminal case a few years ago where a kid who was a black belt suffered a fatal blow to the head after being sucker punched and kicked on the ground. The bottom line is, it's safer to avoid a physical altercation.
  • The last line is letting the kid protect himself. If you want to teach him how to do that, let him glove up and put on some headgear, and spar with a lot of older kids with contact. Then, get him rolling with bigger kids, alot. Sounds mean, but after he realizes he can deal with the bigger kids in class, the bully isn't going to seem so tough. Also, it can build a kid's confidence to know they can defend themselves… to the point that fighting to defend their "honor" becomes pointless. In addition, confidence can prevent a kid from being considered easy prey. If a kid is confident and self-assured, it's unlikely they are going to be picked on.

Hope this helps.

- Mike Massie

7:07 am
November 19, 2010


Robby Bray

Ocala Fl

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posts 16

Dead on point Mike.  Thanks for replying. I would have thought this topic would have generated some feed back but . . .

  This is what I did, seeing I had to deal with it on Tuesday.

 The little guy is 12 yrs old, 6 grade, welcome to middle school right. 

 He is a little guy, really smart, outgoing and always with a smile on his face.  Just a good kid period ! !

His parents obviously were very concerned since they contacted me advise on the matter.  So here's what I did . .

I told his dad, if HE really wanted to help get his son through this, to GI up and join the adult class.  Bring his son with him to class, because my adult class is run differently than my youth class.  Adult class is focused much more on Self Defense.  That way, he and his son can train together, in the dojo, AND at home.  Now he will be getting good professional instruction from me, AND if his father wants to add anymore juice or whatever he can help him practice at home. 

  2. I told him exactly what you said about location. I asked him "WHERE" are you being bullied at?

He said before school while waiting around and at P.E. where no one can really notice.

So I told him not to get to school so early and when there, find some friends to stay mingled in with and avoid the spots where the jerk is hanging around.

I also explained to his parents how "CONFIDENSE" is the key here.  We have to build his confidense up, and doing just what you said is exactly what I was planning to do. Get him working a lot of sparring drills in the youth class, and in the adult class with Dad.  That way, his Dad can really push him on the sparring side, and other big guys too.  But I think if I start him out with his dad, he won't be as intimidated to sparr other bigger guys. 

This is my first experience with this, and it might sound like an easy thing to deal with, it really isn't.  I personally do not promote throwing down to anyone, do to the RISK of an accident happening.  In today's world its just too easy for a wierd accident to happen and someone's dead or paralyzed over what?  Nothing worth the result.  So Confidense is the key.  Kids especially can since if other kids are shy, or intimidated, or scared.  Once they realize that this kid really isn't scared of them anymore, they'll probably switch over to an easier target to bully. 

  "Then my kid can recommend karate class to this kid and I get another student" Wink   LOL

Thanks for the advise Mike. 

8:06 am
November 21, 2010


Louis Charron

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Hello Guys,

Mike and Robby are totally on with this one!

Though I get a small number of Kid Krav Maga students, the most common question I get from parents and adults is "How do I prevent bullying?". The answers you gave above are all part of the follow up instruction, but the answer usually takes them off guard, "YOU can't. You can intercede, but the person in the situation can prevent it."

Though I don't teach a traditional martial art, the core principles and student outcomes are still the same. Students are strongly encouraged to avoid physical encounters and instead taught avoidance, awareness and deescalation techniques. Also with the continued training, the leadership and self confidence skills that develop dissolve bully issues before they start. This applies for adults as well as children.

 

The only suggestion I might add one overlooked part of the psychology of the bully. The thought that bullies have a low self esteem or poor self image in many cases is not true. Most have an inflated self image. This is especially true in girls, where bullying is more subtle. This attitude is accompanied by the need to prove that fact socially. This is why the need for followers and domination of others.

Hope this helps and keep up the great work! The things we teach people now, will show later.

7:11 am
November 22, 2010


M. Massie

Austin, TX

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posts 125

Good points Louis. Thanks for chiming in.

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